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December 22, 2009

Acoustic Underlayment: Rubber Underlayment, Cork, Green Glue, and Others

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What Is Acoustic Underlayment?

Acoustic underlayment is used anywhere a higher level of isolation is required in both STC ratings and IIC ratings.  The materials used in acoustic underlayment are usually recycled rubber, cork, a combination of rubber and cork, and foam.  Other underlayment includes adding Green Glue between the existing sub-floor and a new layer of sub-floor or “mass-based” rigid underlayment usually made of concrete type materials.  The higher performing underlayment (rubber, cork, or a combination) are usually required in multi-family housing and other commercial applications to achieve a field test IIC rating of 45+ and a lab test IIC rating of 50+.  Most condominium structures and large commercial buildings use thick concrete floors and steel framing so these ratings are achievable with an underlayment of minimal thickness–typically around 2mm depending on the flooring used on top of the underlayment.  For example, tile floors will require a thicker underlayment as they will generate considerably more noise than a vinyl floor or even a hardwood laminate.  Learn more about soundproofing at soundproofingschool.com.

Different Ratings For Underlayment

STC ratings largely cover the higher frequencies like speech, radio, and sounds from the TV (not including sub-woofer).  IIC ratings is a way to calculate the level of isolation in relation to impact noise or structure-borne noise which would include footfall, a chair dragging along the floor, or other common noises typically caused by every day living.  The IIC rating is important because a floor can have a sufficient STC rating, say in the low 50’s, but won’t do much at all for isolating impact noise.  With that said, IIC ratings can be very misleading in most cases because it is a rating for the entire system and not just for the material added to the current construction.  Most IIC tests include several inches of concrete, a layer of Gyp-Crete or similar, and usually an acoustically rated ceiling on the underside including either steel stud framing or resilient channel.  So the solution for this dilemma, to cut through the bogus claims of 70+ IIC is to find out the Delta IIC rating.  The Delta IIC rating, or usually written as ?IIC, is a rating for what the material truly isolates on its own.  Like every sound rating the Delta IIC can be misleading as well as performance of a product on a concrete sub-floor will vary from the performance of a product on a wood floor.

If Many Ratings Are Misleading Then What Should I Do?

Unless you can verify the materials used in a test then you can either trust the person trying to make the sale on the product or educate yourself on what type of materials and methods can actually isolate sound.  For walls and ceilings the best way to isolate sound is to decouple the room you are in from the existing structure as much as possible.  The same is true for floors, but the cost of doing this in floors, at least properly, can be ridiculously expensive.  The next best option is to dampen the connection between the flooring and the sub-floor.  To do this you really only have two options.  You can either use a resilient underlayment or add a layer of sub-floor to the existing construction with a damping glue between the existing sub-floor and the new layer of sub-floor.

Using Green Glue To Dampen

Adding the second layer of sub-floor with a damping glue like Green Glue will definitely provide some great results.  The only problem is that installation can be very complicated and limited to certain floor constructions.  One of the limitations is that you can only properly add a layer of sub-floor and Green Glue to the existing sub-floor if the existing sub-floor is wood and not concrete.  This is because the new layer of sub-floor will need to be screwed into the existing layer of sub-floor so that the Green Glue can properly compress between the two layers of sub-floor.  Another limitation of using Green Glue and an extra layer of sub-floor is simply the labor of installing another layer of sub-floor.  It really isn’t much of a DIY project, at least not for a novice, and can be pretty close to impossible to accomplish in a retrofit situation if you don’t have the space to setup a table saw to cut the sub-floor to fit your existing floor.  So adding a layer of sub-floor and using Green Glue is a great option and can be very affordable in comparison to rubber underlayment if all the labor is done yourself or free by someone else.  SIDE NOTE: Have you ever read a paragraph that used the word ’sub-floor’ more than this paragraph?

Using Rubber To Dampen

Solid rubber is without a doubt the most resilient underlayment available.  In fact, 2mm of rubber underlayment is equal to 6mm of the next best performing underlayment which is cork.  Rubber underlayment usually comes in 4′ wide rolls in either 25′, 30′, or 50′ lengths and 2mm, 3mm, 5mm, 6mm, 8mm, and 12mm are the most common thicknesses of rubber underlayment.  The advantage rubber underlayment has over Green Glue is that it can be used on wood floors, concrete floors, wherever, and installation only involves rolling out the underlayment and taping the seams together.  You can glue it down, but you definitely don’t have to and really you shouldn’t glue it down if you are using a floating floor on top of the underlayment.  Acoustical underlayment manufactured from sustainable recycled rubber composite, offers optimal sound reduction while remaining impervious to the elements for life.  Unlike natural cork, recycled rubber remains permanently resilient and will not embrittle with air exposure.  Recycled rubber underlayment can be used with most all wood flooring installations, including glued down, nailed down and stapled down.  It is also specified for use beneath ceramic tile, cork floors, carpets and a variety of resilient sheet and tile floors.  As is the case with acoustic cork, whenever you are installing flooring by a method other than free-floating, the underlayment must be attached to the sub-floor as opposed to simply laying it down.

Using Cork To Dampen

True acoustic cork underlayment will provide a high level of sound reduction as long as the cork used is 6mm or thicker.  Acoustic cork underlayment is spec’ed for use under all types of flooring including glued, nailed, and stapled down installations.  With some flooring types (typically hardwoods and hardwood laminates) you may need to install a moiseture barrier under the cork.  Most manufacturers will accept a 6mil plastic sheet as a moisture barrier.  Be sure to consult the manufacturer before installing your flooring over cork without a moisture barrier.

Cork is also a very affordable build-up material that can be used to create level transitions from tile, hardwood, and carpeted surfaces.  As with rubber underlayment, whenever you are installing flooring by a method other than free-floating, the underlayment must be glued to the sub-floor instead of utilizing a free floating installation of the underlayment.

Conclusion

The only effective way to isolate impact noise and reduce sound transmission between floors is to use an underlayment that can properly dampen.  Rubber underlayment will always perform better than the rest and also has several other advantages in regards to longevity and providing a quality moisture barrier.  Cork underlayment is a very cheap product that can perform well as long as you have a really thick cork.  A 6mm cork will only perform as well as a 2mm rubber underlayment, but that may be all you need for your project.

December 11, 2009

QuietBox For Isolating Recessed Lights

Filed under: Products — admin @ 8:27 am

What Is A QuietBox?

A QuietBox is used to isolate sound from passing through your recessed lighting.  The QuietBox is designed to maintain the acoustic rating of your ceiling while allowing you to use attractive lighting in your room.

The QuietBox 6″ version is made to fit the Halo 6″ H7ICT and Halo 6″ H7ICAT recessed lighting housing.  The QuietBox 5″ version is made to fit the Halo 5″ H5ICT and Halo 5″ H5ICAT recessed lighting housing.  The QuietBox 4″ version is made to fit the Halo 4″ H99ICT recessed lighting housing.  These models are the basic recessed lighting housing with connector arms (for new construction) that you would find at any Home Depot or Lowe’s hardware store.

The exterior frame of the QuietBox is 3/4″ MDF and the interior layer is 1/2″ drywall.  Sandwiched between these two materials is the renowned Green Glue.  We have applied Green Glue at a rate of about 1 tube per 10.6 square feet which is in line with what we call the Supreme application level of Green Glue.  Otherwise known as 3 tubes per 4′ x 8′ sheet.  The angles of the MDF box are sealed with SilenSeal (Green Glue Noiseproofing Sealant) and the angles of the drywall layer are also sealed with SilenSeal.  A hole is pre-drilled to allow for electrical wiring to pass through and a small piece of MetaCaulk Putty Pad is included with the box to seal the hole after passing the wire through during installation.  Installation of the QuietBox requires the use of (2) RSIC-DC04 clips to attach directly to the joists.  These clips are included with each QuietBox as well.

This product is manufactured in house by the employees of Sound Isolation Store and is available exclusively by Sound Isolation Store.  With this we guarantee the quality of construction including the materials used to construct the box, the methods used to construct the box, and the ease of installing the QuietBox.  As long as you use the specified Halo recessed light then you will be successful.

OPTION TO INCLUDE A LIGHT IN YOUR QUIETBOX
We also provide an option to include the actual light with your QuietBox.  For this we include a fully functional recessed light with the extension arms removed and prepared for installation in the QuietBox.  Your price for the customized version of the Halo light is about the same as what you can buy the light for from Home Depot or Amazon.  This makes installation quicker and extremely simple.

Does the QuietBox Work?

The QuietBox definitely does allow you to use recessed lighting in your ceiling without reducing the acoustic integrity of your ceiling.  The QuietBox is made of 3/4″ MDF which is a very thick and dense material that provides a significant amount of mass to improve isolation.  The product that really helps the QuietBox isolate sound is Green Glue.  The Green Glue is applied liberally at a rate that is the equivalent of 3 tubes per 4′ x 8′ sheet of material.

If you are using double layer drywall and Green Glue on your ceiling then the QuietBox will perform as well as your ceiling.  If you are installing sound clips on your ceiling then the inclusion of the RSIC-DC04 clips will help maintain a consistency in your theme of decoupling.  In terms of sound isolation, think of the QuietBox as an extension of your ceiling.  The level of performance the QuietBox provides will in no way negate the isolation performance of your ceiling.

How Do I Install A QuietBox?

Our QuietBox is attached directly to your joists using RSIC-DC04 clips.  These RSIC-DC04 clips are included with each box and very easy to attach to both the joist and the QuietBox.  The attachment of the QuietBox is very simple, but does require electrical work to bring power to the recessed light.  We can only provide installation help in regards to the box itself.  Please click the link below to review the steps to installing a QuietBox.

READ OUR IN-DEPTH QUIETBOX INSTALLATION GUIDE

QuietBox Product Specs

Box: Standard 3/4″ MDF
Interior Layer: 1/2″ drywall
Damping Material: Green Glue Noiseproofing Compound
Sealant:
SilenSeal Acoustical Caulk (Green Glue Noiseproofing Sealant)
Sealant For Wiring: 1″ x 7″ strip of MetaCaulk Putty Pad
Attachment Device: (2) RSIC-DC04 clips

Recessed Lighting Specified For This Box

We chose the Halo line of lighting products because of the affordability and availability nationwide.  Halo products are available at almost every electrical wholesale supply house and every Home Depot or Lowe’s in the United States.

For 6″ Lighting: Halo 6″ H7ICT and Halo 6″ H7ICAT.

If you do not have the Halo 6″ light that we have specified then make sure your 6″ light fits the specifications of the light to the left.  The QuietBox allows for 8″ of height within the box.  Allow for 1/2″ of this 8″ to remain a gap between the back of the light and the interior layer of drywall.


For 5″ Lighting: Halo 5″ H5ICT and Halo 5″ H5ICAT

If you do not have the Halo 5″ light that we have specified then make sure your 5″ light fits the specifications of the light to the right.  The QuietBox allows for 8″ of height within the box.  Allow for 1/2″ of this 8″ to remain a gap between the back of the light and the interior layer of drywall.


For 4″ Lighting: Halo 4″ H99ICT

If you do not have the Halo 4″ light that we have specified then make sure your 4″ light fits the specifications of the light to the right.  The QuietBox allows for 8″ of height within the box.  Allow for 1/2″ of this 8″ to remain a gap between the back of the light and the interior layer of drywall.

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